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		<title>Az gila at 14:54, 21 June 2006</title>
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		<updated>2006-06-21T14:54:48Z</updated>

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Bob... that makes sense.. It would be nice if they updated their AC&#039;s to agree with what they say...:^)   gil A&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Gil,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Gil,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;That is what we have been instructed to do by the FAA at safety seminars.  They says its not a local issue, that it comes from DC, and that the distinction is whether or not the appliance has a Type Certificate.  Been doing it for close to 10 years now.  Looking over the AC43.9C, I find that its easy to see where they are getting the &amp;quot;suggestion&amp;quot; to maintain separate records.  5(c) about 91.417(a)(1) refers to Airframe, Engine and Prop or Rotor system and wants records for each.  It goes on to say they need not be separate records, but when an engine is sent off as an exchange for OH or a replacement prop is bought, its clear that there needs to be a way to send the records FOR THAT APPLIANCE with it.  Separate logs is just a simple, inexpensive way to comply.  91.417(a)(2)(i) would also apply, in that the need to track total time in service for each appliance is simplified if they each have their own records.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;That is what we have been instructed to do by the FAA at safety seminars.  They says its not a local issue, that it comes from DC, and that the distinction is whether or not the appliance has a Type Certificate.  Been doing it for close to 10 years now.  Looking over the AC43.9C, I find that its easy to see where they are getting the &amp;quot;suggestion&amp;quot; to maintain separate records.  5(c) about 91.417(a)(1) refers to Airframe, Engine and Prop or Rotor system and wants records for each.  It goes on to say they need not be separate records, but when an engine is sent off as an exchange for OH or a replacement prop is bought, its clear that there needs to be a way to send the records FOR THAT APPLIANCE with it.  Separate logs is just a simple, inexpensive way to comply.  91.417(a)(2)(i) would also apply, in that the need to track total time in service for each appliance is simplified if they each have their own records.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;

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		<title>Bob Steward at 01:21, 20 June 2006</title>
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		<updated>2006-06-20T01:21:09Z</updated>

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;That is what we have been instructed to do by the FAA at safety seminars.  They says its not a local issue, that it comes from DC, and that the distinction is whether or not the appliance has a Type Certificate.  Been doing it for close to 10 years now.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;That is what we have been instructed to do by the FAA at safety seminars.  They says its not a local issue, that it comes from DC, and that the distinction is whether or not the appliance has a Type Certificate.  Been doing it for close to 10 years now&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;.  Looking over the AC43.9C, I find that its easy to see where they are getting the &quot;suggestion&quot; to maintain separate records.  5(c) about 91.417(a)(1) refers to Airframe, Engine and Prop or Rotor system and wants records for each.  It goes on to say they need not be separate records, but when an engine is sent off as an exchange for OH or a replacement prop is bought, its clear that there needs to be a way to send the records FOR THAT APPLIANCE with it.  Separate logs is just a simple, inexpensive way to comply.  91.417(a)(2)(i) would also apply, in that the need to track total time in service for each appliance is simplified if they each have their own records&lt;/ins&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Bob... what document says this?  &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;quot;The FAA wants a log book for each &amp;quot;Class 1 Appliance&amp;quot;.&amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Bob... what document says this?  &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;quot;The FAA wants a log book for each &amp;quot;Class 1 Appliance&amp;quot;.&amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Is the AC 43-9C obsolete, because it actually says it is not required?  It is still listed as &amp;quot;current&amp;quot; on the FAA web site...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Is the AC 43-9C obsolete, because it actually says it is not required?  It is still listed as &amp;quot;current&amp;quot; on the FAA web site...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;

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		<title>Bob Steward at 01:09, 20 June 2006</title>
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		<updated>2006-06-20T01:09:06Z</updated>

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;That is what we have been instructed to do by the FAA at safety seminars.  They says its not a local issue, that it comes from DC, and that the distinction is whether or not the appliance has a Type Certificate.  Been doing it for close to 10 years now.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Bob... what document says this?  &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;quot;The FAA wants a log book for each &amp;quot;Class 1 Appliance&amp;quot;.&amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Bob... what document says this?  &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;quot;The FAA wants a log book for each &amp;quot;Class 1 Appliance&amp;quot;.&amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Is the AC 43-9C obsolete, because it actually says it is not required?  It is still listed as &amp;quot;current&amp;quot; on the FAA web site...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Is the AC 43-9C obsolete, because it actually says it is not required?  It is still listed as &amp;quot;current&amp;quot; on the FAA web site...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;

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		<title>Az gila at 05:40, 19 June 2006</title>
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		<updated>2006-06-19T05:40:54Z</updated>

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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;Bob... what document says this?  &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;quot;The FAA wants a log book for each &amp;quot;Class 1 Appliance&amp;quot;.&amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Is the AC 43-9C obsolete, because it actually says it is not required?  It is still listed as &amp;quot;current&amp;quot; on the FAA web site...&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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