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AA5B

2021-01-12T17:29:39Z

Charlie Bobbish:

The [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grumman_American_AA-5#AA-5B_Tiger AA5B Tiger] was manufactured from 1975 to 1979 by Grumman American (later Gulfstream American.) Gulfstream ceased production of all piston-engined aircraft in 1979 and the highly successful Tiger design went out of production after 1,323 aircraft had been delivered.

The IACRA code for the Tiger is GA-AA-5B

{| class="wikitable"
|+AA5B Serial Numbers
!Year
!First
!Last
|-
|1975||AA5B-0001||AA5B-0110
|-
|1976||AA5B-0111||AA5B-0399
|-
|1977||AA5B-0400||AA5B-0692
|-
|1978||AA5B-0693||AA5B-0905
|-
|1979||AA5B-0906||AA5B-1323
|}

{| class="wikitable"
|+Bondline Contributors Who Own or Fly AA5Bs
!Name
!Year
!SN
!N Number
!Handle
!City
!Country
!Notes
|-
|[[User:Wes_Chapman|Wes Chapman]]||1976||AA5B-0121||N74080|| ||Vidalia, GA||USA||
|-
|[[User:9242Z|Kevin Olinger]]||1976||AA5B-0183||N9242Z|| ||Studio City, CA ||USA||
|-
|[[User:Radiohound|Frank Sundram]]||1976||AA5B-0194||N200FW|| ||Davenport, IA||USA||
|-
|[[User:GregAmy|Greg Amy]]||1977||AA5B-0537||N81140|| ||New Haven, CT ||USA||
|-
|[[User:Az_gila|Gil Alexander]]||1977||AA5B-0635||N12GA||Tigger||Tucson, AZ||USA|| was N28478
|-
|[[User:Richard Dale|Richard Dale]]||1979||AA5B-0991||VH-IGI||Iggy||Perth||Australia||[http://www.flightclub.com.au Available for hire.]
|-
|[[User:Hondahaven|David Steward]]||1979||AA5B-1105||N4525P|| ||Memphis, TN||USA||
|-
|Brisbane Flying Group||1979||AA5B-1139||VH-WPQ|| ||Brisbane||Australia||[http://www.brisflying.org/ BFG]
|-
|Brisbane Flying Group||1979||AA5B-1238||VH-WPZ|| ||Brisbane||Australia||[http://www.brisflying.org/ BFG]
|-
|Brisbane Flying Group||1979||AA5B-1299||VH-WPM|| ||Brisbane||Australia||[http://www.brisflying.org/ BFG]
|-
|[[User:Jack_Horn|Jack Horn]]||1979||AA5B-1304||N4539S|| ||Houston, TX ||USA||
|}

[[Category:Tiger Topics]]

GrummanMechanics

2012-12-30T02:01:32Z

Charlie Bobbish:

There are frequent requests on the Grumman Gang for Grumman savvy mechanics. The hope is that we may build a database here, similar to the concept of TripAdvisor. The list should be organized by State, and then by field. Under state, insert the field in alphanumeric order, and then insert your mechanic. Please comment good or bad, but try to be fair. The reality is that someone may be excellent, but an owner may have a bad experience. That's fine, and expected. Just be straight, and at least the reader can make more informed decisions. Additionally, please inject a link to your user page after your comments. This will afford some sort of accountability, as well as give readers a source to query if needed.

'''Policy Change for this page. The intent is to solicit comments and personal recommendations, unlike the rest of Bondline, which is intended to be factual or instructive in the comments, with the content being neutral to individuals or companies. To claim your comments, good or bad, on this page, you must identify yourself with a link to your user page, and begin and end your comments with quotation marks, to separate factual information (name, location, phone numbers, etc.) from your personal experiences, praise, or criticism. Everyone is welcome to add to this page, but do not edit other contributor's quoted comments.'''

Link each of your comments to your user page, e.g. [[User:Bob_Steward|Bob Steward]], like so:

:<nowiki>[[User:Bob_Steward|Bob Steward]]</nowiki>

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'''ARKANSAS'''

D&T Paint, Mena, AR
:[[User:Scoffey|Stephen Coffey]]: "In February, 2008, they painted my airplane, and did an acceptable $3,500 single color job. Communication is horrible. Yes, there are details I would have done differently myself, but didn't have time. I would NOT have them do anything unless you set up a $500 to start, $1000 after you strip it and send me pictures, yaddah yaddah type of plan."

TwelveStone Aviation, 479-841-1836, Springdale, AR
:[[User:Scott_Jernigan|Scott Jernigan]], February, 2008: "John Gearhart has been working on my Cheetah for 10 years now. He was involved in the HyperCheetah conversion as well. John is a very good mechanic who refuses to cut corners, but also knows the difference between required and recommended."

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'''CALIFORNIA'''

Gary Vogt, AuCountry Aviation, AUN (Auburn, CA; east of Sacramento)
:[[User:davetroup|David Troup]]: "Gary is one of a small handful of true Grumman gurus in the USA. He only works on Tigers and Cheetahs and knows just about everything there is to know about them. He's a perfectionist - with all that entails - but that's exactly the kind of person I want working on my plane. Gary has also designed a number of upgrades for Grummans, including a replacement lower cowling that improves cooling, performance and appearance. His website is http://www.aucountry.com."

Mike McCarthy, Spider's Aircraft, MYF (San Diego Area)
:[[User:Scoffey|Stephen Coffey]]: "In May, 2007, I was looking at an airplane in the San Diego area, and Mike did a prebuy. He did it almost immediately, and called after he found a couple of items, giving me his impression. This decision saved me a good deal of money as I eliminated the airplane before he spent a ton of time on it. I really appreciated that. He seemed very type-knowlegeable."

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'''DELAWARE'''

Jim Russell, N74 Chorman Airport - Farmington, DE (about a dozen clicks south of Dover AFB)
:[[User:aa1bflyboy|Steve Roberts]]: "In the summer of '07 I wanted to paint 64L. After speaking to Jim and finding out about his back log, I took his recommendation of just painting the parts of my plane that needed painting (only about 25%). I like the kind of businessman who is willing to give away work in hopes that when you are in need of his specific services you will come back. He is geared up to do one plane at a time. The work he has done is superb. There are several Grumman owners in the MidAtlantic Region who have had their planes painted there. I know of one that is on the cover of the Star. Contact me directly and I can point you to the guy who did the paint at 58M."

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'''GEORGIA'''

PDK (Atlanta):

Steve Sirmer, AP/IA 404-788-3616
:[[User:Scoffey|Stephen Coffey]], February, 2009: "I was referred to Steve in late 2008. Nice guy, very reasonable, and has helped out with that 'needed this week' item for which it didn't make sense for Bob Steward to run over from Alabama. Seems knowlegable and very honest from my limited dealings. Definitely an option."

[[User:Bob_Steward|Bob Steward]], AP/IA
:[[User:Scoffey|Stephen Coffey]], February, 2009: "Experience over 2007-2009. There are just times you don't want anyone else to work on your airplane, if you live in the southeast. If I lived in Birmingham, nobody else ever WOULD work on my airplane. Due to the travel, small things don't make sense to have him travel over, but for most things I absolutely recommend Bob. The job gets done right, and you learn a whole lot in the process. We've installed a new engine, R&R wings, fuel tank work, swapped fuses for breakers, replaced spinner bulkhead, all kinds of things in a short period of time."

Mark Clowdus, AP
:[[User:Scoffey|Stephen Coffey]], February, 2009: "I have occasionally used Mark for two airplanes over the past few years. Mark is thorough, but I've come to question some of his comments. On two airplanes at prebuy, he noted a rotten alternator belt. One of those had been replaced with new 3 months earlier! I've had mixed results, as have others on field. I requested an owner assisted annual at one time, and was turned down. He has insisted that my airplane, despite being 30 years old, needs 12-inch numbers. There are just better options available."

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'''MARYLAND'''

Roger Robinson A&P/IA, Cecil Aero, 58M (Cecil County Airport)
:[[User:aa1bflyboy|Steve Roberts]]: "Roger is a very knowledgeable A&P/IA. Retired from Delta now he has been maintaining numerous Grumman type AC for many years. He is willing to allow owner assisted maintenance or drop it off and pick it up when she is ready. Roger worked with me and my painter when I wanted to paint 'just the parts that needed paint.'"

Hagerstown Aircraft Services, Hagerstown Airport (HGR):
:[[User:Charlie Bobbish|Charlie Bobbish]]: "Hagerstown Aircraft Services has maintained my Tiger since 2002. They have painted it, replaced the interior, and upgraded the panel. They do things right, at a reasonable price, and with honesty and integrity. http://www.hgrair.com/"

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'''MISSOURI'''

1H0 (Creve Coeur Airport)
Jaime LeBlanc, AP/IA
:[[User:Bkamen|Ben Kamen]], February, 2009: "Jaime's a crazy cajun who used to work for TWA and has been painting and fixing airplanes for decades. A real craftsman whose prices are reasonable. He knows Grummans as he works on both 2 and 4 seaters regularly. (He usually fixes a few paint jobs from Mena, AR every year too) He's pretty laid back (read: "sometimes slow" with getting the work done. Sometimes it's because his schedule is hectic, sometimes it's due to weather (painting is a touchy thing as we know and he's a perfectionist)), but he gets the job done and the results are well worth it. He did the paint on my 74' AA-1B in 2004, but we had a lot of fixing to do on the plane and everything came out very nice. He also repaired the fiberglass on my front nosewheel and 2 years later you still can't tell."

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'''PENNSYLVANIA'''

Jay Shearer A&P/IA, Shearer Aviation, 9D4 (Deck Airport)
:[[User:aa1bflyboy|Steve Roberts]]: "Jay is a very knowledgeable A&P/IA. Has been maintaining numerous Grumman type AC for many years. He is willing to allow owner assisted maintenance or drop it off and pick it up when she is ready. Jay worked with me when I upgraded to the O320. I also had Jay sign off for other work such as Xevision HID light and a Whelen strobe kit. No pencil whipping from this shop."

Ben Travis A&P/IA, Smart Avionics, 9D4 (Deck Airport)
:[[User:aa1bflyboy|Steve Roberts]]: "Ben and his crew at Deck worked with me on my panel upgrade. Like Jay, he allowed me to owner assist when I did this work. He also worked with me when I installed the Superclock and FP-5L."

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'''WASHINGTON'''

SHN (Shelton, WA)

Harold Haynes, AP/IA
:[[User:Scoffey|Stephen Coffey]]: "In Nov 2007 I bought an airplane that Harold's team had been maintaining. I cannot comment on working with Harold, but there seemed to be a LOT of things unaddressed in the airplane that I now own, and had been under his care for 10 years. I know this is somewhat typical, as I've owned several airplanes, but this one was a bit more disappointing than normal. This may be at the behest of the owner, but I feel that at least some of it should have prevented labeling log books with 'found to be in airworthy condition.'"

Olympic Air
:[[User:Scoffey|Stephen Coffey]]: "In November, 2007, They did the prebuy on my airplane. They did not want to do a wobble test, and talked me out of it. That cost me about 20 grand. They did not notice that the outboard wing section on the left side had been replaced, and unlogged. Fortunately I found the owner from 1974 and resolved this to the satisfaction of the guys I reluctantly contacted at the FSDO (dumb move, by the way). This is noticeable because of the purple glue in a '72 airplane, which I feel a Grumman savvy mechanic who actually inspected the airplane would have noticed. Essentially, I'm quite sure that the list of items to check I had sent was not so thoroughly checked. I'd travel the plane for another mechanic as opposed to using these guys."

[[Category:Maintenance]]

GrummanMechanics

2012-12-30T02:00:40Z

Charlie Bobbish: added hagerstown aircraft services

There are frequent requests on the Grumman Gang for Grumman savvy mechanics. The hope is that we may build a database here, similar to the concept of TripAdvisor. The list should be organized by State, and then by field. Under state, insert the field in alphanumeric order, and then insert your mechanic. Please comment good or bad, but try to be fair. The reality is that someone may be excellent, but an owner may have a bad experience. That's fine, and expected. Just be straight, and at least the reader can make more informed decisions. Additionally, please inject a link to your user page after your comments. This will afford some sort of accountability, as well as give readers a source to query if needed.

'''Policy Change for this page. The intent is to solicit comments and personal recommendations, unlike the rest of Bondline, which is intended to be factual or instructive in the comments, with the content being neutral to individuals or companies. To claim your comments, good or bad, on this page, you must identify yourself with a link to your user page, and begin and end your comments with quotation marks, to separate factual information (name, location, phone numbers, etc.) from your personal experiences, praise, or criticism. Everyone is welcome to add to this page, but do not edit other contributor's quoted comments.'''

Link each of your comments to your user page, e.g. [[User:Bob_Steward|Bob Steward]], like so:

:<nowiki>[[User:Bob_Steward|Bob Steward]]</nowiki>

To learn how to format your entries, look at one of the other entries or read the [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Wikitext Wikitext Help].

----

'''ARKANSAS'''

D&T Paint, Mena, AR
:[[User:Scoffey|Stephen Coffey]]: "In February, 2008, they painted my airplane, and did an acceptable $3,500 single color job. Communication is horrible. Yes, there are details I would have done differently myself, but didn't have time. I would NOT have them do anything unless you set up a $500 to start, $1000 after you strip it and send me pictures, yaddah yaddah type of plan."

TwelveStone Aviation, 479-841-1836, Springdale, AR
:[[User:Scott_Jernigan|Scott Jernigan]], February, 2008: "John Gearhart has been working on my Cheetah for 10 years now. He was involved in the HyperCheetah conversion as well. John is a very good mechanic who refuses to cut corners, but also knows the difference between required and recommended."

----

'''CALIFORNIA'''

Gary Vogt, AuCountry Aviation, AUN (Auburn, CA; east of Sacramento)
:[[User:davetroup|David Troup]]: "Gary is one of a small handful of true Grumman gurus in the USA. He only works on Tigers and Cheetahs and knows just about everything there is to know about them. He's a perfectionist - with all that entails - but that's exactly the kind of person I want working on my plane. Gary has also designed a number of upgrades for Grummans, including a replacement lower cowling that improves cooling, performance and appearance. His website is http://www.aucountry.com."

Mike McCarthy, Spider's Aircraft, MYF (San Diego Area)
:[[User:Scoffey|Stephen Coffey]]: "In May, 2007, I was looking at an airplane in the San Diego area, and Mike did a prebuy. He did it almost immediately, and called after he found a couple of items, giving me his impression. This decision saved me a good deal of money as I eliminated the airplane before he spent a ton of time on it. I really appreciated that. He seemed very type-knowlegeable."

----

'''DELAWARE'''

Jim Russell, N74 Chorman Airport - Farmington, DE (about a dozen clicks south of Dover AFB)
:[[User:aa1bflyboy|Steve Roberts]]: "In the summer of '07 I wanted to paint 64L. After speaking to Jim and finding out about his back log, I took his recommendation of just painting the parts of my plane that needed painting (only about 25%). I like the kind of businessman who is willing to give away work in hopes that when you are in need of his specific services you will come back. He is geared up to do one plane at a time. The work he has done is superb. There are several Grumman owners in the MidAtlantic Region who have had their planes painted there. I know of one that is on the cover of the Star. Contact me directly and I can point you to the guy who did the paint at 58M."

----
'''GEORGIA'''

PDK (Atlanta):

Steve Sirmer, AP/IA 404-788-3616
:[[User:Scoffey|Stephen Coffey]], February, 2009: "I was referred to Steve in late 2008. Nice guy, very reasonable, and has helped out with that 'needed this week' item for which it didn't make sense for Bob Steward to run over from Alabama. Seems knowlegable and very honest from my limited dealings. Definitely an option."

[[User:Bob_Steward|Bob Steward]], AP/IA
:[[User:Scoffey|Stephen Coffey]], February, 2009: "Experience over 2007-2009. There are just times you don't want anyone else to work on your airplane, if you live in the southeast. If I lived in Birmingham, nobody else ever WOULD work on my airplane. Due to the travel, small things don't make sense to have him travel over, but for most things I absolutely recommend Bob. The job gets done right, and you learn a whole lot in the process. We've installed a new engine, R&R wings, fuel tank work, swapped fuses for breakers, replaced spinner bulkhead, all kinds of things in a short period of time."

Mark Clowdus, AP
:[[User:Scoffey|Stephen Coffey]], February, 2009: "I have occasionally used Mark for two airplanes over the past few years. Mark is thorough, but I've come to question some of his comments. On two airplanes at prebuy, he noted a rotten alternator belt. One of those had been replaced with new 3 months earlier! I've had mixed results, as have others on field. I requested an owner assisted annual at one time, and was turned down. He has insisted that my airplane, despite being 30 years old, needs 12-inch numbers. There are just better options available."

----

'''MARYLAND'''

Roger Robinson A&P/IA, Cecil Aero, 58M (Cecil County Airport)
:[[User:aa1bflyboy|Steve Roberts]]: "Roger is a very knowledgeable A&P/IA. Retired from Delta now he has been maintaining numerous Grumman type AC for many years. He is willing to allow owner assisted maintenance or drop it off and pick it up when she is ready. Roger worked with me and my painter when I wanted to paint 'just the parts that needed paint.'"

Hagerstown Aircraft Services, Hagerstown Airport (HGR):
:[[User:Charlie Bobbish|Charlie Bobbish]]: Hagerstown Aircraft Services has maintained my Tiger since 2002. They have painted it, replaced the interior, and upgraded the panel. They do things right, at a reasonable price, and with honesty and integrity. http://www.hgrair.com/

----

'''MISSOURI'''

1H0 (Creve Coeur Airport)
Jaime LeBlanc, AP/IA
:[[User:Bkamen|Ben Kamen]], February, 2009: "Jaime's a crazy cajun who used to work for TWA and has been painting and fixing airplanes for decades. A real craftsman whose prices are reasonable. He knows Grummans as he works on both 2 and 4 seaters regularly. (He usually fixes a few paint jobs from Mena, AR every year too) He's pretty laid back (read: "sometimes slow" with getting the work done. Sometimes it's because his schedule is hectic, sometimes it's due to weather (painting is a touchy thing as we know and he's a perfectionist)), but he gets the job done and the results are well worth it. He did the paint on my 74' AA-1B in 2004, but we had a lot of fixing to do on the plane and everything came out very nice. He also repaired the fiberglass on my front nosewheel and 2 years later you still can't tell."

----

'''PENNSYLVANIA'''

Jay Shearer A&P/IA, Shearer Aviation, 9D4 (Deck Airport)
:[[User:aa1bflyboy|Steve Roberts]]: "Jay is a very knowledgeable A&P/IA. Has been maintaining numerous Grumman type AC for many years. He is willing to allow owner assisted maintenance or drop it off and pick it up when she is ready. Jay worked with me when I upgraded to the O320. I also had Jay sign off for other work such as Xevision HID light and a Whelen strobe kit. No pencil whipping from this shop."

Ben Travis A&P/IA, Smart Avionics, 9D4 (Deck Airport)
:[[User:aa1bflyboy|Steve Roberts]]: "Ben and his crew at Deck worked with me on my panel upgrade. Like Jay, he allowed me to owner assist when I did this work. He also worked with me when I installed the Superclock and FP-5L."

----

'''WASHINGTON'''

SHN (Shelton, WA)

Harold Haynes, AP/IA
:[[User:Scoffey|Stephen Coffey]]: "In Nov 2007 I bought an airplane that Harold's team had been maintaining. I cannot comment on working with Harold, but there seemed to be a LOT of things unaddressed in the airplane that I now own, and had been under his care for 10 years. I know this is somewhat typical, as I've owned several airplanes, but this one was a bit more disappointing than normal. This may be at the behest of the owner, but I feel that at least some of it should have prevented labeling log books with 'found to be in airworthy condition.'"

Olympic Air
:[[User:Scoffey|Stephen Coffey]]: "In November, 2007, They did the prebuy on my airplane. They did not want to do a wobble test, and talked me out of it. That cost me about 20 grand. They did not notice that the outboard wing section on the left side had been replaced, and unlogged. Fortunately I found the owner from 1974 and resolved this to the satisfaction of the guys I reluctantly contacted at the FSDO (dumb move, by the way). This is noticeable because of the purple glue in a '72 airplane, which I feel a Grumman savvy mechanic who actually inspected the airplane would have noticed. Essentially, I'm quite sure that the list of items to check I had sent was not so thoroughly checked. I'd travel the plane for another mechanic as opposed to using these guys."

[[Category:Maintenance]]

Category:STC

2012-12-30T01:54:05Z

Charlie Bobbish: Created page with "This category summarizes Supplementary Type Certificates (STC)"

This category summarizes Supplementary Type Certificates (STC)

Vernier Throttle AA5-B

2012-12-30T01:53:12Z

Charlie Bobbish: Added a category

The first time I flew an ILS in IMC in a friend's vernier-equipped Bonanza, I knew I had to have one in my Tiger. Very small changes in RPM keep you dialled onto the glildeslope. Moreover, the vernier throttle by its nature also encourages slow, gradual power changes, which many feel is healthy for the engine. In the event that instantaneous full throttle is required for, say, a go-around, the vernier can be overridden by depressing a large center button. In the one or two times I've used it in this way, I just used the heel of my hand to push the throttle forward.

The 337's for installation of a CableCraft vernier throttle in my Tiger is located at:

http://www.campbells.org/Airplanes/337s/index_Airplanes337s.html

[[Category:Tiger Topics]]
[[Category:STC]]

337s

2012-12-30T01:52:36Z

Charlie Bobbish: Added a category

Edit this page to add the title of your 337s to the list below. After you save this page, click the title of your 337 to edit its new page.

* [[Antenna in Dorsal Fin]].
* [[Additional Gust Lock Setting]].
* [[Canopy Sky Lights]].
* [[Intercom]].
* [[IFR Approach GPS]]
* [[Split Nose Bowl (Stock AA1A)]]
* [[Vernier Throttle AA5-B]]
* [[Electronic Lamp Dimmer AA5-B]]
* [[Concorde RG Form 337]]
* [[Aerospace Logic OL-100 Oil Pressure and Temperature Indicator]]
* [[Aerospace Logic FP-100 Fuel Pressure and Ammeter Indicator]]
* [[Aerospace Logic CHT-100-4 Cylinder Head Temperature Indicator]]
* [[Monroy ATD-300 Traffic Watch]]
* [[Replacement of stock vacuum gauge with UMA 1-inch model]]
* [[Replace stock O235 engine with O320-E2G AirModsNW STC]]

* [[Installing Gary Vogt's AuCountry Aviation Jaguar Cowl on an AA5-B]]

[[Category:STC]]

Split Nose Bowl (Stock AA1A)

2012-12-30T01:50:46Z

Charlie Bobbish: Added a category

The nose bowl on my stock AA1A was split horizontally by Bill Heard of Bill's Air Service in Santa Monica, California.

I was pleased with the quality and cost (about $300 including shipping).

Bill provided a [http://mira.sbw.org/nosebowl/heardnosebowl337.pdf Form 337 for my aircraft] (142KB PDF), which referenced another 337 for an aircraft modified earlier. Bill provided only the first page of that earlier 337.

That left me without the drawings that would be required to repair the modification, if necessary.

So I ordered up the microfiche for the aircraft modified earlier and scanned the [http://mira.sbw.org/nosebowl/heardN9470L337.pdf Form 337 and attached drawing] (1,020KB PDF).

[[Category:STC]]

Concorde RG Form 337

2012-12-30T01:50:01Z

Charlie Bobbish: Added a category

[http://www.sbw.org/concorde/ Concorde RG Battery approved Form 337]

[[Category:STC]]

Engine STCs

2012-12-30T01:49:23Z

Charlie Bobbish: Added a category

Increasing the HP is a popular option among all brands. The manufacturer's often did this as a means of product expansion, starting with a low HP model and introducing higher HP versions as the model matured.

The Grumman line is no exception. Starting with the 1969 model AA-1, the original 108 HP O-235-C2C was replaced on the AA-1C Lynx with the 115 HP O-235-L2C. The factory expanded the 2 place to a 4 place with the introduction of the Traveler in 1972, and upped the engine to a 150 HP O-320-E2G. 3 years later the Tiger was introduced with the 180 HP O-360-A4K.

Owners in the field were often not content to wait for the factory to increase the HP on their favorite model, and developed a number of HP increasing engine swaps and tweaks to existing engines. The following is information about MULTIPLE STCs that can be installed on additional airplanes without FAA field approval. There are many field approved mods, or one-time STCs that can not be duplicated without FAA approval again. Those projects are interesting, but not included here.

'''2 Place STCs'''

One of the earliest such mods was Jimmy Collier's O-290/O-320 conversion for the AA-1x series, '''SA2477SW'''. This STC was subsequently sold to [http://www.fletchair.com/ FletchAir]. FletchAir also has a companion GW increase STC for planes that have been modified with their O-320 conversion STC, '''SA4106SW'''.

Later [[User:Maynard_Crosby|Maynard Crosby]] received approval for a follow-on STC with some improvements, '''SA1208NW'''.

Maynard also received approval to swap the Lynx prop, spinner, and oil cooler onto the earlier 2 place series for higher engine Redline and improved T/O and climb performance, '''SA2169NM'''.

[http://airmodsnw.com/page/grumman-stcs Ken Blackman], as Maynard's ex-partner, duplicated the O-320 conversion effort with some additional changes to receive '''SA4387NM'''.

Ken received approval to move the [http://www.sensenich.com/stc/am152pg3.htm "Sparrow Hawk"] high compression STC from Cessna 152s to the AA-1C Lynx, '''SA641NW'''.

[http://precisionengine.home.mindspring.com/ Bill Scott] received approval for a common mod to the low compression O-235s that machined the case for larger through studs and installed higher compression pistons, essentially converting the O-235-C2C to a conical mount version of the O-235-L2C Lynx engine, '''SA00985CH'''.

'''4 Place STCs'''

By far the most popular mod to the 4 place is the [http://precisionengine.home.mindspring.com/ Bill Scott] High Compression conversion for the 150 HP Traveler and Cheetah engines. Bill adapted a popular mod that was used on Cessna, Piper, and Beech trainers to the Traveler and Cheetah engine, and received the airframe and engine STCs, '''SE683NE, SA682NE'''. The basis for this STC is installation of the Lycoming 75089 piston as used in the O-320 B and D series engines that are rated at 160 HP. Due to lack of testing for EPA noise requirements, the HC STC limits the Redline RPM to 2650, which according to the Lycoming Engine Operator's Handbook for the High Compression O-320 series is equal to 157 HP, and it is not technically correct to call this an 160 HP STC.

[[User:Maynard_Crosby|Maynard Crosby]] received approval for an installation of the Tiger O-360-A4K in Cheetah and Traveler airframes, effectively converting the Cheetah to a Tiger, though the Traveler became a "Super Traveler" with the limitations in fuel capacity and CG limits from the smaller tail.

[[User:Peter_Otten|Peter Otten]] received '''SA5452NM''' to install the 200 HP IO-360-C1C6 and Hartzell C/S prop from a Piper Arrow onto a Cheetah. As part of the conversion, the option of increasing the GW by replacing the center spar with a Tiger part allowed recovery of the UL lost with the change in engine and prop weights. After years of keeping the multiple STC unavailable to the public, Peter sold the rights to FletchAir, and they eventually sold the rights to [[User:Scott_Jernigan|Scott Jernigan]], who re-engineered the drawings and coined the term "Hyper-Cheetah", saying that if the 180 HP Tigerization made a Super Cheetah, the next higher superlative would be "Hyper", which coincided with his [http://www.hyperdynesystems.com Hyperdyne Systems] business name.

[[User:John_Coze|John Coze]] received approval to install a 260 HP IO-540-D4A5 engine and Hartzell C/S prop on his Cheetah, '''SA4966NM'''.

There are many other one-off conversions with 4 and 6 cylinder engines installed on the Cheetah/Tiger airframe, but none are multiple STCs or available to the public at this time.

[[Category:STC]]

AA5

2012-11-27T14:58:07Z

Charlie Bobbish: Added category tag

The AA5 was manufactured from 1972 to 1975 by American Aviation in Cleveland, and by Grumman American in Cleveland and Savannah. It was marketed as the Traveler.

{| class="wikitable"
|+AA5 Serial Numbers
!Year
!First
!Last
|-
|1972||AA5-0001||AA5-0154
|-
|1973||AA5-0155||AA5-0405
|-
|1974||AA5-0406||AA5-0640
|-
|1975||AA5-0641||AA5-0834
|}

{| class="wikitable"
|+Bondline Contributors Who Own or Fly AA5s
!Name
!Year
!SN
!N Number
!Handle
!City
!Country
!Notes
|-
|[[User:johnbunker|John Bunker]]||1972||AA5-0038||N5838L||38 Lima||San Jose, CA||USA||Red
|-
|Loy Rickman||1972||AA5-0066||N5866L||Sixty-Six Lima||Sunrise Beach, MO||USA||Pepsi Blue over Imron Cream. Original paint pattern
|-
|[[User:n5819l|Bob Salman]]||1972||AA5-0219||N5819L||19 Lima||Gilmer, GA||USA||Red/white/blue
|-
|Larry Lymburner||1973||AA5-0207||N5798L||||Lehigh Acres FL||USA||Number originally assigned to an AA1 which went to Canada
|-
|[[User:Robyn Edwards|Robyn Edwards]]||1973||AA5-0282||VH-ETT||bETTy||Perth, WA||Australia|| [http://vk6xre.waus.net/vh-ett bETTy's web page]
|-
|Steve Davis||1974||AA5-0624||N7124L||24 Lima||Bakersfield, Ca||USA||Blue Cowl w/red strips over white body
|-
|[[User:Steve_White|Steve White]]||1974||AA5-0626||N749MC|| 9MC||Piggott,AR||USA||PF,HC,SENS,DMA MODS
|-
|[[User:tprevost|Tom Prevost]]||1975||AA5-0672||N67TP||67 TP||Frederick, MD||USA||Formerly N7172L
|-
|[[User:jimcantrell|Jim Cantrell]]||1975||AA5-0697||N7197L||97 Lima||Jackson, MS||USA||Refurbishing
|-
|}
[[Category:Traveler Topics]]

GA7

2012-11-27T14:57:14Z

Charlie Bobbish: Added category tag

The GA7 was manufactured from 1978 to 1979. Initially by Grumman American Aviation Corp for approximately 7 months until the company was purchased by Allen Paulson of American Jet Industries. Then it was built under the Gulfstream American name through 1979 when production ceased. It was marketed as the Cougar.

The [http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_library/rgMakeModel.nsf/0/590a578e3e1f29668625687a006c7554/$FILE/A17SO.pdf#search=%22FAA%20type%20certificate%20A17SO%22 type certificate] is currently owned by Socata Groupe Aerospatiale.

{| class="wikitable"
|+GA7 Serial Numbers
!Year
!First
!Last
|-
|1978||GA7-0001||GA7-0075
|-
|1979||GA7-0076||GA7-0115
|}

{| class="wikitable"
|+Bondline Contributors Who Own or Fly GA7s
!Your Name
!Year
!Serial Number
!N Number
!Handle
|-
|Rick Bruns||1978||GA7-0060||N60MR||
|-
|Your Name||Model Year||Serial Number||Tail Number||Your Plane's Nickname
|}

[[Category:Cougar Topics]]

AG5B

2012-11-27T14:56:36Z

Charlie Bobbish:

The AG5B was manufactured from 1990 to 1993 by American General Aircraft company in Greenville, MS, and starting in 2001 by Tiger Aircraft in Martinsburg, West Virginia. It was marketed as the Tiger.

{| class="wikitable"
|+AG5B Serial Numbers
!Year
!First
!Last
|-
|1990||AG5B-09997||AG5B-10009
|-
|1991||AG5B-10010||AG5B-10096
|-
|1992||AG5B-10097||AG5B-10150
|-
|1993||AG5B-10151||AG5B-10178
|-
|2001||AG5B-10201||AG5B-xxxx
|-
|2002||AG5B-xxxx||AG5B-10214
|-
|2003||AG5B-10215||AG5B-10230
|-
|2004||AG5B-10231||AG5B-xxxx
|-
|2005||AG5B-xxxx||AG5B-10250
|-
|2006||AG5B-10251||AG5B-xxxx
|}

{| class="wikitable"
|+Bondline Contributors Who Own or Fly AG5Bs
!Name
!Year
!SN
!N Number
!Handle
|-
|Your Name||Model Year||Serial Number||Tail Number||Your Plane's Nickname
|-
|[[User:Ned_Thomas|Ned Thomas]]||2001||10202||N923TE||None
|-
|[[User:Mike_Babin|Mike Babin]]||2004||10233||N954TE||None
|}

[[Category:Tiger Topics]]
[[Category:Tiger Aircraft]]

GrummanMechanics

2012-11-26T17:01:05Z

Charlie Bobbish: Added category tag

There are frequent requests on the Grumman Gang for Grumman savvy mechanics. The hope is that we may build a database here, similar to the concept of TripAdvisor. The list should be organized by State, and then by field. Under state, insert the field in alphanumeric order, and then insert your mechanic. Please comment good or bad, but try to be fair. The reality is that someone may be excellent, but an owner may have a bad experience. That's fine, and expected. Just be straight, and at least the reader can make more informed decisions. Additionally, please inject a link to your user page after your comments. This will afford some sort of accountability, as well as give readers a source to query if needed.

'''Policy Change for this page. The intent is to solicit comments and personal recommendations, unlike the rest of Bondline, which is intended to be factual or instructive in the comments, with the content being neutral to individuals or companies. To claim your comments, good or bad, on this page, you must identify yourself with a link to your user page, and begin and end your comments with quotation marks, to separate factual information (name, location, phone numbers, etc.) from your personal experiences, praise, or criticism. Everyone is welcome to add to this page, but do not edit other contributor's quoted comments.'''

Link each of your comments to your user page, e.g. [[User:Bob_Steward|Bob Steward]], like so:

:<nowiki>[[User:Bob_Steward|Bob Steward]]</nowiki>

To learn how to format your entries, look at one of the other entries or read the [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Wikitext Wikitext Help].

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'''ARKANSAS'''

D&T Paint, Mena, AR
:[[User:Scoffey|Stephen Coffey]]: "In February, 2008, they painted my airplane, and did an acceptable $3,500 single color job. Communication is horrible. Yes, there are details I would have done differently myself, but didn't have time. I would NOT have them do anything unless you set up a $500 to start, $1000 after you strip it and send me pictures, yaddah yaddah type of plan."

TwelveStone Aviation, 479-841-1836, Springdale, AR
:[[User:Scott_Jernigan|Scott Jernigan]], February, 2008: "John Gearhart has been working on my Cheetah for 10 years now. He was involved in the HyperCheetah conversion as well. John is a very good mechanic who refuses to cut corners, but also knows the difference between required and recommended."

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'''CALIFORNIA'''

Gary Vogt, AuCountry Aviation, AUN (Auburn, CA; east of Sacramento)
:[[User:davetroup|David Troup]]: "Gary is one of a small handful of true Grumman gurus in the USA. He only works on Tigers and Cheetahs and knows just about everything there is to know about them. He's a perfectionist - with all that entails - but that's exactly the kind of person I want working on my plane. Gary has also designed a number of upgrades for Grummans, including a replacement lower cowling that improves cooling, performance and appearance. His website is http://www.aucountry.com."

Mike McCarthy, Spider's Aircraft, MYF (San Diego Area)
:[[User:Scoffey|Stephen Coffey]]: "In May, 2007, I was looking at an airplane in the San Diego area, and Mike did a prebuy. He did it almost immediately, and called after he found a couple of items, giving me his impression. This decision saved me a good deal of money as I eliminated the airplane before he spent a ton of time on it. I really appreciated that. He seemed very type-knowlegeable."

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'''DELAWARE'''

Jim Russell, N74 Chorman Airport - Farmington, DE (about a dozen clicks south of Dover AFB)
:[[User:aa1bflyboy|Steve Roberts]]: "In the summer of '07 I wanted to paint 64L. After speaking to Jim and finding out about his back log, I took his recommendation of just painting the parts of my plane that needed painting (only about 25%). I like the kind of businessman who is willing to give away work in hopes that when you are in need of his specific services you will come back. He is geared up to do one plane at a time. The work he has done is superb. There are several Grumman owners in the MidAtlantic Region who have had their planes painted there. I know of one that is on the cover of the Star. Contact me directly and I can point you to the guy who did the paint at 58M."

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'''GEORGIA'''

PDK (Atlanta):

Steve Sirmer, AP/IA 404-788-3616
:[[User:Scoffey|Stephen Coffey]], February, 2009: "I was referred to Steve in late 2008. Nice guy, very reasonable, and has helped out with that 'needed this week' item for which it didn't make sense for Bob Steward to run over from Alabama. Seems knowlegable and very honest from my limited dealings. Definitely an option."

[[User:Bob_Steward|Bob Steward]], AP/IA
:[[User:Scoffey|Stephen Coffey]], February, 2009: "Experience over 2007-2009. There are just times you don't want anyone else to work on your airplane, if you live in the southeast. If I lived in Birmingham, nobody else ever WOULD work on my airplane. Due to the travel, small things don't make sense to have him travel over, but for most things I absolutely recommend Bob. The job gets done right, and you learn a whole lot in the process. We've installed a new engine, R&R wings, fuel tank work, swapped fuses for breakers, replaced spinner bulkhead, all kinds of things in a short period of time."

Mark Clowdus, AP
:[[User:Scoffey|Stephen Coffey]], February, 2009: "I have occasionally used Mark for two airplanes over the past few years. Mark is thorough, but I've come to question some of his comments. On two airplanes at prebuy, he noted a rotten alternator belt. One of those had been replaced with new 3 months earlier! I've had mixed results, as have others on field. I requested an owner assisted annual at one time, and was turned down. He has insisted that my airplane, despite being 30 years old, needs 12-inch numbers. There are just better options available."

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'''MARYLAND'''

Roger Robinson A&P/IA, Cecil Aero, 58M (Cecil County Airport)
:[[User:aa1bflyboy|Steve Roberts]]: "Roger is a very knowledgeable A&P/IA. Retired from Delta now he has been maintaining numerous Grumman type AC for many years. He is willing to allow owner assisted maintenance or drop it off and pick it up when she is ready. Roger worked with me and my painter when I wanted to paint 'just the parts that needed paint.'"

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'''MISSOURI'''

1H0 (Creve Coeur Airport)
Jaime LeBlanc, AP/IA
:[[User:Bkamen|Ben Kamen]], February, 2009: "Jaime's a crazy cajun who used to work for TWA and has been painting and fixing airplanes for decades. A real craftsman whose prices are reasonable. He knows Grummans as he works on both 2 and 4 seaters regularly. (He usually fixes a few paint jobs from Mena, AR every year too) He's pretty laid back (read: "sometimes slow" with getting the work done. Sometimes it's because his schedule is hectic, sometimes it's due to weather (painting is a touchy thing as we know and he's a perfectionist)), but he gets the job done and the results are well worth it. He did the paint on my 74' AA-1B in 2004, but we had a lot of fixing to do on the plane and everything came out very nice. He also repaired the fiberglass on my front nosewheel and 2 years later you still can't tell."

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'''PENNSYLVANIA'''

Jay Shearer A&P/IA, Shearer Aviation, 9D4 (Deck Airport)
:[[User:aa1bflyboy|Steve Roberts]]: "Jay is a very knowledgeable A&P/IA. Has been maintaining numerous Grumman type AC for many years. He is willing to allow owner assisted maintenance or drop it off and pick it up when she is ready. Jay worked with me when I upgraded to the O320. I also had Jay sign off for other work such as Xevision HID light and a Whelen strobe kit. No pencil whipping from this shop."

Ben Travis A&P/IA, Smart Avionics, 9D4 (Deck Airport)
:[[User:aa1bflyboy|Steve Roberts]]: "Ben and his crew at Deck worked with me on my panel upgrade. Like Jay, he allowed me to owner assist when I did this work. He also worked with me when I installed the Superclock and FP-5L."

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'''WASHINGTON'''

SHN (Shelton, WA)

Harold Haynes, AP/IA
:[[User:Scoffey|Stephen Coffey]]: "In Nov 2007 I bought an airplane that Harold's team had been maintaining. I cannot comment on working with Harold, but there seemed to be a LOT of things unaddressed in the airplane that I now own, and had been under his care for 10 years. I know this is somewhat typical, as I've owned several airplanes, but this one was a bit more disappointing than normal. This may be at the behest of the owner, but I feel that at least some of it should have prevented labeling log books with 'found to be in airworthy condition.'"

Olympic Air
:[[User:Scoffey|Stephen Coffey]]: "In November, 2007, They did the prebuy on my airplane. They did not want to do a wobble test, and talked me out of it. That cost me about 20 grand. They did not notice that the outboard wing section on the left side had been replaced, and unlogged. Fortunately I found the owner from 1974 and resolved this to the satisfaction of the guys I reluctantly contacted at the FSDO (dumb move, by the way). This is noticeable because of the purple glue in a '72 airplane, which I feel a Grumman savvy mechanic who actually inspected the airplane would have noticed. Essentially, I'm quite sure that the list of items to check I had sent was not so thoroughly checked. I'd travel the plane for another mechanic as opposed to using these guys."

[[Category:Maintenance]]

The Annual Inspection

2012-11-26T17:00:18Z

Charlie Bobbish: Added category tag

== Introduction ==

This is part one (1) of a three (3) part article about Mike (and his '76 AA5A).

# The Annual Inspection
# [[The Replies]]
# [[What I've Learned]]

== Part 1: The Annual Inspection ==

My Cheetah is the first airplane I've owned and we just went through our first annual together. I thought I'd share my experience and I'm also looking for some "sage advice" on what I should expect in an airplanes condition after it has completed an annual. I have found a number of problems since the airplane was returned to service by the shop (which came recommended by a number of individuals as one that knows Grummans...more on that below).

In addition to the basic annual, my squawk list included

* A throttle cable that was starting to get stiff
* A check of the charging system since a battery recently died (it was unknown age and was a really tired battery)
* Replacement of the aileron bearings/bushings as part of the 100 hour AD (recommended from previous AD compliance)
* Upgrading to the Boom Beam HID landing light (a x-mas gift from my wife - ain't she great).
* I had also told them I wanted the wobble check done since it had been over 500 hours since the top overhaul.

I had taken off 3 days from work in order to "owner assist" (mostly just help with the access panels and watch and learn).

On the first day of the annual, my skills with a Philips head screwdriver served me well as I removed most of the access panels, the wing tips and, with help, the cowl while the A&P spent a fair amount of the time looking at the HID light STC instructions and doing other prep work. We then went to work on the landing gear, finding that new brakes and discs were needed, cleaning and repacking the bearings. I'm thinking at this point that every airplane owner should definitely do this.

Day two was where it got interesting. Brake parts were on back order and most progress seemed to grind to a halt. The A&P decided that the tasks for the day were to install the HID landing light harness/control and replace the wind-sheared ELT antenna. Since the ELT antenna sits partially inside the vertical fin, the A&P decided he'd have to drill out the pop rivets that hold it to the bottom mounting. Since there are screws at the back of the fin and drilling out all those rivets sounded excessive, I asked if he would call Fletchair and see if there was a trick to this. He declined. Of course, after drilling out the rivets and lifting the fin off of the mount he found the clips that would have allowed removal by just removing the screws and sliding forward a few inches (yes *I* later looked this up in *their* copy of the maintenance manual - 53-0 p202). This, along with a prior incident explaining to them how the aileron AD was supposed to be done (Thanks Bob Steward & Barry), and I start to wonder about the "Grumman experience" of this shop.

Since parts were on back order, I went back to my job for a couple days and did not show back up at the shop until the day the parts were supposed to arrive. When I got there, I found that they had "done the rest" of the inspection and replaced most of the access covers and the lower cowl. So much for learning the rest of that process. All that was left was to finish the brake work and install the throttle cable. I was told that they had another plane coming in and needed to get mine wrapped up. So, the A&P finished the work (brakes and throttle cable) and I reinstalled the wheel fairings. I asked about the results of the wobble check and they said they didn't have the fixture but would order one if I wanted to reschedule another appointment. Hmm ... I've only had this scheduled with them for over a month and I specifically asked about this check ... oh well.

In hindsight I wish I had been there the entire time my plane was at the shop. After the A&P approved the plane for return to service, I found the following squawks that did not exist prior to the annual:

* The elevator would stick at about "neutral" - the problem was a interference by a mis-positioned throttle cable clamp.
* The elevator would make a noise when full left aileron was applied - A scat tube had moved into the control path.
* The flap fuse was blown and replacement caused immediate fuse failure - A&P said he checked the flaps and they were fine, but the limit switches may now be out of adjustment and the mechanism was jammed in the up position.
* The right brake intermittently loses effectiveness - Cured by bleeding the brakes.
* The wheels or brakes make rubbing noises as if a brake is sticking a little and the disc is warped. - This turned out to be a bent wheel fairing bracket. Fixed by my *new* shop.
* Fuel was leaking out of the carburetor return hose fitting @ ~4gph(1) They rechecked and tightened the fitting.
* My Nav2 radio no longer worked – New mechanic found that the plug had been knocked loose. Now fixed.
* Trim around the rear seat belt mounts had been broken (yeah, I know a nit pick and brittle plastic - guess I'll try that MEK and dissolved plastic trick I've been reading about. Of course the guys that replaced all the side window plastic a year earlier managed to do it without breaking the plastic)
* The updated W&B, required by the STC, was not placed in the plane (only copy was in their file).

This, unfortunately, was discovered in-flight by my fuel totalizer which was showing an unusual 13GPH consumption rate for my HC Cheetah. Looking inside with the electric pump on, there was an obvious stream (fountain?) of 100LL coming from the fitting. I have since modified my pre-flight checklist to include pressurizing the fuel system before the external walkaround and to check for fuel leak/smell around the cowl.

Now, I understand that my Cheetah's 30th birthday is this year and I would expect that things could potentially fail just after an annual. And I know that problems are why we regularly practice emergency procedures. But to have such a large number, and specifically items that they should have inspected or they touched during the course of their work, be problems immediately after the annual seems to be to be outside the range of normal coincidence. I have since received a copy of the checklist they use for annual inspections and have tried to compare it to the one in the maintenance manual. The one they use is a general checklist and so it includes items not on our planes (such as retractable landing gear checks) but does not include items specific to our cats (like skin bonding issues, canopy issues, etc.). And items on their checklist, like "Flight controls free and correct", do not appear to have been performed after all work was completed. I've founds checks in the inspection checklist in the Grumman Maintenance Manual that should have found all the above problems if done in an appropriate sequence.

So I'm now a little concerned that this annual was not done to the level of detail that I would expect from an inspection designed to verify the operational safety of an aircraft. To their credit, they have been good at working with me to fix the issues.

But like I said, I'm kind of new to this process so I'd like to hear from some of you veteran owners and mechanics out there. On a scale of "Oh, stop your whining" to "Go quickly and find another shop," where do you think this experience belongs?

== The Rest of the Story ==

Next: [[The Replies]]

Last: [[What_I%27ve_Learned | What I've Learned]]

[[Category:Maintenance]]
[[Category:Annual Inspections]]

Category:Tiger Topics

2012-11-26T16:59:00Z

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This category contains topics related to the AA5B/AG5B Tigers

AA5B

2012-11-26T16:58:26Z

Charlie Bobbish: Added category tag

The [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grumman_American_AA-5#AA-5B_Tiger AA5B Tiger] was manufactured from 1975 to 1979 by Grumman American (later Gulfstream American.) Gulfstream ceased production of all piston-engined aircraft in 1979 and the highly successful Tiger design went out of production after 1,323 aircraft had been delivered.

{| class="wikitable"
|+AA5B Serial Numbers
!Year
!First
!Last
|-
|1975||AA5B-0001||AA5B-0110
|-
|1976||AA5B-0111||AA5B-0399
|-
|1977||AA5B-0400||AA5B-0692
|-
|1978||AA5B-0693||AA5B-0905
|-
|1979||AA5B-0906||AA5B-1323
|}

{| class="wikitable"
|+Bondline Contributors Who Own or Fly AA5Bs
!Name
!Year
!SN
!N Number
!Handle
!City
!Country
!Notes
|-
|[[User:Wes_Chapman|Wes Chapman]]||1976||AA5B-0121||N74080|| ||Vidalia, GA||USA||
|-
|[[User:9242Z|Kevin Olinger]]||1976||AA5B-0183||N9242Z|| ||Studio City, CA ||USA||
|-
|[[User:Radiohound|Frank Sundram]]||1976||AA5B-0194||N200FW|| ||Davenport, IA||USA||
|-
|[[User:GregAmy|Greg Amy]]||1977||AA5B-0537||N81140|| ||New Haven, CT ||USA||
|-
|[[User:Az_gila|Gil Alexander]]||1977||AA5B-0635||N12GA||Tigger||Tucson, AZ||USA|| was N28478
|-
|[[User:Richard Dale|Richard Dale]]||1979||AA5B-0991||VH-IGI||Iggy||Perth||Australia||[http://www.flightclub.com.au Available for hire.]
|-
|[[User:Hondahaven|David Steward]]||1979||AA5B-1105||N4525P|| ||Memphis, TN||USA||
|-
|Brisbane Flying Group||1979||AA5B-1139||VH-WPQ|| ||Brisbane||Australia||[http://www.brisflying.org/ BFG]
|-
|Brisbane Flying Group||1979||AA5B-1238||VH-WPZ|| ||Brisbane||Australia||[http://www.brisflying.org/ BFG]
|-
|Brisbane Flying Group||1979||AA5B-1299||VH-WPM|| ||Brisbane||Australia||[http://www.brisflying.org/ BFG]
|-
|[[User:Jack_Horn|Jack Horn]]||1979||AA5B-1304||N4539S|| ||Houston, TX ||USA||
|}

[[Category:Tiger Topics]]

Inspection Horror Stories

2012-11-26T16:57:44Z

Charlie Bobbish:

Post your story about an annual or a pre-purchase gone horribly wrong, so that others can learn from your experience and hopefully avoid the same pitfalls in the future.

The names of the shops, mechanics, owners and the N numbers need not be posted, to avoid embarrassment and to encourage more people to share their stories.

== A First Time Owners First Annual ==
I originally submitted this "story" as a number of posts to the Grumman Gang mailing list. I am including the original post (with some updates) replies, and some lessons learned here in the hopes that it helps other new aircraft owners. Thanks to the many gang members who replied, I have learned a lot from this experience!

---Mike (and his '76 AA5A)

[[The Annual Inspection]]

[[The Replies]]

[[What I've Learned]]

== Story #2 ==

[[Category:Maintenance]]
[[Category:Annual Inspections]]

AA5A

2012-11-26T16:56:42Z

Charlie Bobbish: Added category tag

The AA5A was manufactured from 1976 to 1977 by Grumman American, and 1978 to 1979 by Gulfstream Aerospace. There were 900 AA5As produced, 640 by Grumman American and 260 by Gulfstream Aerospace. It was marketed as the Cheetah.

{| class="wikitable"
|+AA5A Serial Numbers
!Year
!First
!Last
|-
|1976||AA5A-0001||AA5A-0282
|-
|1977||AA5A-0001||AA5A-0522
|-
|1978||AA5A-0001||AA5A-0670
|-
|1979||AA5A-0001||AA5A-0900
|}

{| class="wikitable"
|+Bondline Contributors Who Own or Fly AA5As
!Name
!Year
!SN
!N Number
!Handle
|-
|[[user:ddking|Dennis King]]||1976||AA5A-0018||N9652U||none
|-
|[[user:John_Garman|John Garman]]||1976||AA5A-0095||N9595U||none
|-
|[[user:jbowman90|Jason Bowman]]||1976||AA5A-0149||[[user:jbowman90|N9749U]]||none
|-
|[[user:mboyd|Mike Boyd]]||1976||AA5A-0211||N9811U||none
|-
|[[user:ddking|Dennis King]]||1977||AA5A-0321||[[user:ddking|N9921U]]||none
|-
|[[user:Roger_Rucker|Roger Rucker]]||1978||AA5A-0557||[[user:Roger_Rucker|N26390]]||none
|-
|[[user:Hortonjf|John Horton]]||1978||AA5A-0612||N26465||none
|-
|[[user:Mike_Bowman|Mike Bowman]]||1979||AA5A-0884||N3772C||none
|-
|}

[[Category:Cheetah Topics]]

Maintenance

2012-11-26T16:56:02Z

Charlie Bobbish: Added category tag

We've organized this section to mirror the headings in the factory maintenance manual. Note that the section headings are "clickable" and take you to summary pages for that section. Links are repeated on those summary pages.

== [[Maintenance: General|General]] ==

* Required Information and Documentation
* Logbooks and Recording

== [[Servicing]] ==

* Inspections
* Oil Changes
* Tire Air Pressure
* Grease and Fluids references

== [[Airframe]] ==

* Disassembly
* Dorsal Fin Replacement
* Headliner
* Rear and Canopy Headliner
* [[Interior Trim]]
* Whelen Strobe Installation Inside the Red Rudder Cap
* [[Window Replacement]]
* Replacement Parts

== [[Landing Gear]] ==

* Brake System
* Nose Strut
* Wheels
* Main Landing Gear Attach Bolts
* Wheel Pants - Shell Replacement

== [[Control Systems]] ==

* Rigging
* Stall Warning System

== [[Powerplant]] ==

* Engine Baffles
* Engine Swaps and Mods
* Cylinders
* Oil and Filter
* Overhaul and field service
* TBO considerations
* Valve Wobble Testing
* Vacuum Pump

== [[Propeller]] ==

* Back Plate

== [[Fuel System]] ==

* Fuel Tank Leaks
* Auxiliary Fuel Tank
* Fuel Level Transmitter
* Fuel Tank Drains

== [[Instrumentation]] ==

* Installing Mitchell Gauges
* Installing a Horizon P-1000 tachometer

== [[Structural Repair]] ==

* An Example Repair
* Lower Cowling Split
* Repair of Debonding
* Tail Tiedown Repair

== [[Preparations for Painting|Painting]] ==

* Preparations for Painting

== [[Electrical Systems]] ==

* Charging Systems
* Panel Switches

[[Category:Maintenance]]

AG5B

2012-11-26T16:04:34Z

Charlie Bobbish: Added category tag

Category:Maintenance

2012-11-26T16:03:09Z

Charlie Bobbish: Created page with "Pages linked here are related to maintenance."

Pages linked here are related to maintenance.

Maintenance: General

2012-11-26T16:02:34Z

Charlie Bobbish: Added category tag

==Required Information and Documentation==

To do any maintenance, the [http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&sid=687122739e072b94c661c119b25602d0&rgn=div8&view=text&node=14:1.0.1.3.20.0.363.10&idno=14 FARs require] that you have the manufacturer's current maintenance instructions. These would include the airframe maintenance manual, the illustrated parts catalog, and other service publications such as service bulletins, service letters, etc. However the airframe manufacturer didn't make all the parts that are on the plane. The engine manufacturer has their own set of manuals, as do many accessory manufacturers. Having the manual for the magneto or the brakes and wheels is just as important when working on those accessories as is having the engine or airframe manuals.

That is a lot of manuals to locate, but fortunately, some suppliers are now offering their manuals on CD or even on the Internet. One such forward thinking company is [http://www.parker.com Parker-Hannifin], the makers of Cleveland Wheels and Brakes. They offer manuals in print, on CD, and on the web for their [[Media:AWBPC0001.pdf|Parts Catalog]] (16MB PDF) and their [[Media:AWBCMM0001.pdf|Maintenance Manual]] (16MB PDF). Note that the Cleveland manuals above are as retrieved in October 2009. It would be prudent to check with Cleveland for updates before considering these to be "Current Maintenance Instructions" as called out in FAR 43.13.

Unfortunately, Lycoming only has a small selection of their documents on-line. They can be viewed [http://www.lycoming.textron.com/main.jsp?bodyPage=support/publications/maintenance.html here].

==Logbooks and Recording==
The minimum requirements for logging work done on an aircraft or accessory is detailed in [http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&sid=687122739e072b94c661c119b25602d0&rgn=div8&view=text&node=14:1.0.1.3.20.0.363.6&idno=14 FAR 43.9]. A log entry must include a brief description of the work performed, the date the work was completed, the name of the person that performed the work -- if different than the one making the log entry, the name, certificate number and type of the person making the entry and of course the signature, which the FAA says constitutes the approval for return to service.

The description of the work "should be in sufficient detail to permit a person unfamiliar with the work to understand what was done, and the methods and procedures used in doing it". A reference to standard methods, procedures and technical data may be made to keep from making each record too long if extensive work is performed.

The FAA has a detailed Advisory Circular on maintaining records - [http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgAdvisoryCircular.nsf/0/cfb1221d9b8038b9862569c40075c77f/$FILE/AC43-9C.pdf AC 43-9C].

Although we all think in terms of those little books that say "Aircraft Log Book" on the cover, the FAA does not actually require that we keep the records of the maintenance in a "log book". They can be a stack of loose sheets in a file folder, or even an electronic record -- like many of the airlines and the military use to track their maintenance. Caution is needed here though, per AC 43-9C, electronics records still have to meet the FAR requirements, including signatures, so a hard copy with a signature still seems to be needed.

With light planes its just easier to use the traditional log book, so that is how most owners of light planes manage their records. For our Grummans, time in service and details of the propeller, engine and airframe all need to be logged, while they could be in one logbook (again, per the AC 43-9C), as a practical matter, it's easier to have three separate log books.

The FAA wants a log book for each "Class 1 Appliance". Class 1 Appliances are those components that have a Type Certificate, such as the Airframe, the Engine, and the Prop(s) or rotor system. In the past it was common to include the prop in the Airframe logs, but more recent thinking in Washington suggests we have a separate prop log. So if someone hasn't already purchased a prop log and begun tracking the prop separately, now would be a good time to obtain one and add it to your maintenance records at the next inspection.

[[Category:Maintenance]]

FunFlyinLocations

2012-11-26T14:48:16Z

Charlie Bobbish: added KLNS

'''What is your favorite Fly-in location? Here are some of ours:'''

'''ALABAMA'''
:[http://www.airnav.com/airport/KEKY EKY] Bessemer, AL '''The Hangar''', a new on-field restaurant. [[user:Bob_Steward|Bob Steward]] says: "I've been to this Sports bar with aviation theme, good $100 burger, etc." Region 4 had a fly-in Saturday Feb 21 @ lunch. 9 Aircraft and 18 attendees, reviews were very positive, with requests to meet there again.

'''ARKANSAS'''

:[http://www.airnav.com/airport/KMEZ MEZ] Mena, AR Aircraft paint and engine shops -- of interest if you are thinking paint/engine/upholstery. [[User:scoffey|Stephen Coffey]] Be advised, after a long flight, there isn't a beer for MILES. And the Sun Country Inn is much newer/nicer than the other options if you get the "privilege" of getting socked in for 3 days like I did. [[user:Bob_Steward|Bob Steward]] says: "I can second the recommendation for Sun Country Inn. I've stayed there and at 2 other local motels while working at the Mena Airport on various Grummans. Lime Tree has a nice restaurant (Sun Country has no food), but the building is older and the rooms less nice than Sun Country. I ate breakfast at Lime Tree multiple times."

'''FLORIDA'''

:[http://www.airnav.com/airport/55J 55J] Fernandina Beach / Amelia Island. [[User:scoffey|Stephen Coffey]] The Ritz there occasionally does last minute specials at a good price. The airport is a 5 minute cab ride to the hotel. Downtown is kinda quaint and cool. Quick and easy SE get away.

'''GEORGIA'''

:[http://www.airnav.com/airport/KFFC FFC] Falcon Field Peachtree City, GA '''Aircraft Spruce East''', '''Dixie Wing of Confederate Air Force Restoration Center'''

:[http://www.airnav.com/airport/KLZU LZU] Gwinnett County Lawrenceville, GA '''EAA 690 Pancake Breakfast''' 1st Saturday every month. Program follows @ 10:30

:[http://www.airnav.com/airport/KPDK PDK] Dekalb-Peachtree in North Atlanta, GA '''Downwind Restaurant''' (on the second story of the Administration Building next to Epps Air Service). Has balcony/deck for outdoor dining when Wx is good.

:[http://www.airnav.com/airport/KRYY RYY] Cobb County Airport-Mc Collum Field '''Elevation Chophouse''' [[User:scoffey|Stephen Coffey]] "Higher end food, but pretty good. Nice HUGE glass wall facing the runway."

'''KENTUCKY'''

:[http://www.airnav.com/airport/KOWB OWB] Owensboro, KY '''Moonlight BBQ''' (not on field, only a short drive), '''Bill and Carol Scott's Precision Engine''' shop. [[user:Bob_Steward|Bob Steward]] says: "I visit Moonlight BBQ everytime I stop by Precision Engine to see Bill and Carol."

'''NEW JERSEY'''
:[http://www.airnav.com/airport/12N 12N] Aeroflex, NJ '''Kittatiny State Park''' Nice biking and hiking trails start at the airport, Boating - lake 100 yards from the runway. Bring your own inflatable boat or bicycles.

'''PENNSYLVANIA'''
:[http://www.airnav.com/airport/LNS LNS] Lancaster, PA '''Fiorentinos''' Good Italian restaurant located in the terminal building. There is also a small pilot shop located in the FBO. The FBO will send a van for you, or you can walk (~10 minutes).

User talk:Sbw

2012-11-26T14:43:25Z

Charlie Bobbish: Categories/Templates

== Categories/Templates ==

Hi Steve- Thanks for approving my account! Was wondering if you would be amenable if I started creating some categories and templates in order to organize some of the pages? There is some great information on this wiki, was thinking that with categories it might be easier to navigate.